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Byker
2017-07-02 23:00:01 UTC
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Europe's Migrant Crisis: Views from Central Europe

by Soeren Kern
July 2, 2017

Many so-called asylum seekers have refused to relocate to Central and
Eastern Europe because the financial benefits there are not as generous as
in France, Germany or Scandinavia. In addition, hundreds of migrants who
have been relocated to Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, which rank among the
poorest EU countries, have since fled to Germany and other wealthier
countries in the bloc.

"It needs to be said clearly and directly: This is an attack on Europe, on
our culture, on our traditions." — Poland's Prime Minister Beata Szydło.

"I think we have a right to decide that we do not want a large number of
Muslim people in our country. That is a historical experience for us." —
Viktor Orbán, Prime Minister of Hungary, referring to Hungary's occupation
by the Ottoman Empire from 1541 to 1699.

More:
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/10610/migrant-crisis-central-europe
abelard
2017-07-03 07:07:33 UTC
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Europe's Migrant Crisis: Views from Central Europe
by Soeren Kern
July 2, 2017
Many so-called asylum seekers have refused to relocate to Central and
Eastern Europe because the financial benefits there are not as generous as
in France, Germany or Scandinavia. In addition, hundreds of migrants who
have been relocated to Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, which rank among the
poorest EU countries, have since fled to Germany and other wealthier
countries in the bloc.
"It needs to be said clearly and directly: This is an attack on Europe, on
our culture, on our traditions." — Poland's Prime Minister Beata Szyd?o.
"I think we have a right to decide that we do not want a large number of
Muslim people in our country. That is a historical experience for us." —
Viktor Orbán, Prime Minister of Hungary, referring to Hungary's occupation
by the Ottoman Empire from 1541 to 1699.
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/10610/migrant-crisis-central-europe
i saw that idiot in canada yesterday raving about how anyone
could go and live in canada..

the cult is against national borders...

and is gathering the force to impose it on the weak and the poor
DoD
2017-07-03 07:12:02 UTC
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Europe's Migrant Crisis: Views from Central Europe
by Soeren Kern
July 2, 2017
Many so-called asylum seekers have refused to relocate to Central and
Eastern Europe because the financial benefits there are not as generous as
in France, Germany or Scandinavia. In addition, hundreds of migrants who
have been relocated to Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, which rank among the
poorest EU countries, have since fled to Germany and other wealthier
countries in the bloc.
"It needs to be said clearly and directly: This is an attack on Europe, on
our culture, on our traditions." - Poland's Prime Minister Beata Szyd?o.
"I think we have a right to decide that we do not want a large number of
Muslim people in our country. That is a historical experience for us." -
Viktor Orbán, Prime Minister of Hungary, referring to Hungary's occupation
by the Ottoman Empire from 1541 to 1699.
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/10610/migrant-crisis-central-europe
i saw that idiot in canada yesterday raving about how anyone
could go and live in canada..
the cult is against national borders...
and is gathering the force to impose it on the weak and the poor
I saw something earlier that Poles are against illegal immigration... Seemed
that
they were most peeved that illegals want welfare? What is wrong with that?
Don't people
want people to contribute to society?
abelard
2017-07-03 07:22:22 UTC
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Europe's Migrant Crisis: Views from Central Europe
by Soeren Kern
July 2, 2017
Many so-called asylum seekers have refused to relocate to Central and
Eastern Europe because the financial benefits there are not as generous as
in France, Germany or Scandinavia. In addition, hundreds of migrants who
have been relocated to Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, which rank among the
poorest EU countries, have since fled to Germany and other wealthier
countries in the bloc.
"It needs to be said clearly and directly: This is an attack on Europe, on
our culture, on our traditions." - Poland's Prime Minister Beata Szyd?o.
"I think we have a right to decide that we do not want a large number of
Muslim people in our country. That is a historical experience for us." -
Viktor Orbán, Prime Minister of Hungary, referring to Hungary's occupation
by the Ottoman Empire from 1541 to 1699.
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/10610/migrant-crisis-central-europe
i saw that idiot in canada yesterday raving about how anyone
could go and live in canada..
the cult is against national borders...
and is gathering the force to impose it on the weak and the poor
I saw something earlier that Poles are against illegal immigration... Seemed
that
they were most peeved that illegals want welfare? What is wrong with that?
Don't people
want people to contribute to society?
the prime objective of the immigrant is to better themselves....not to
better the receiving society...

people do not join chess clubs in order the other people may play
chess...
DoD
2017-07-03 07:33:13 UTC
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Europe's Migrant Crisis: Views from Central Europe
by Soeren Kern
July 2, 2017
Many so-called asylum seekers have refused to relocate to Central and
Eastern Europe because the financial benefits there are not as generous as
in France, Germany or Scandinavia. In addition, hundreds of migrants who
have been relocated to Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, which rank among the
poorest EU countries, have since fled to Germany and other wealthier
countries in the bloc.
"It needs to be said clearly and directly: This is an attack on Europe, on
our culture, on our traditions." - Poland's Prime Minister Beata Szyd?o.
"I think we have a right to decide that we do not want a large number of
Muslim people in our country. That is a historical experience for us." -
Viktor Orbán, Prime Minister of Hungary, referring to Hungary's occupation
by the Ottoman Empire from 1541 to 1699.
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/10610/migrant-crisis-central-europe
i saw that idiot in canada yesterday raving about how anyone
could go and live in canada..
the cult is against national borders...
and is gathering the force to impose it on the weak and the poor
I saw something earlier that Poles are against illegal immigration... Seemed
that
they were most peeved that illegals want welfare? What is wrong with that?
Don't people
want people to contribute to society?
the prime objective of the immigrant is to better themselves....not to
better the receiving society...
people do not join chess clubs in order the other people may play
chess..
Not sure I understand that logic... If I was wanting to get away from a crap
society and join a new one, why would I bring that crap society with me?

So please re-explain the chess analysis..
DoD
2017-07-03 07:39:38 UTC
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Europe's Migrant Crisis: Views from Central Europe
by Soeren Kern
July 2, 2017
Many so-called asylum seekers have refused to relocate to Central and
Eastern Europe because the financial benefits there are not as generous as
in France, Germany or Scandinavia. In addition, hundreds of migrants who
have been relocated to Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, which rank among the
poorest EU countries, have since fled to Germany and other wealthier
countries in the bloc.
"It needs to be said clearly and directly: This is an attack on Europe, on
our culture, on our traditions." - Poland's Prime Minister Beata Szyd?o.
"I think we have a right to decide that we do not want a large number of
Muslim people in our country. That is a historical experience for us." -
Viktor Orbán, Prime Minister of Hungary, referring to Hungary's occupation
by the Ottoman Empire from 1541 to 1699.
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/10610/migrant-crisis-central-europe
i saw that idiot in canada yesterday raving about how anyone
could go and live in canada..
the cult is against national borders...
and is gathering the force to impose it on the weak and the poor
I saw something earlier that Poles are against illegal immigration... Seemed
that
they were most peeved that illegals want welfare? What is wrong with that?
Don't people
want people to contribute to society?
the prime objective of the immigrant is to better themselves....not to
better the receiving society...
people do not join chess clubs in order the other people may play
chess..
Not sure I understand that logic... If I was wanting to get away from a crap
society and join a new one, why would I bring that crap society with me?
So please re-explain the chess analysis..
Well... Obviously for the long term thinker, the better society you join,
the better you are and the
better you can make that society, the better long term your life will be....
Not collecting welfare
or some such nonsense...

Why the fuck is that such a foreign principle in today's world?
abelard
2017-07-03 07:46:31 UTC
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Europe's Migrant Crisis: Views from Central Europe
by Soeren Kern
July 2, 2017
Many so-called asylum seekers have refused to relocate to Central and
Eastern Europe because the financial benefits there are not as generous as
in France, Germany or Scandinavia. In addition, hundreds of migrants who
have been relocated to Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, which rank among the
poorest EU countries, have since fled to Germany and other wealthier
countries in the bloc.
"It needs to be said clearly and directly: This is an attack on Europe, on
our culture, on our traditions." - Poland's Prime Minister Beata Szyd?o.
"I think we have a right to decide that we do not want a large number of
Muslim people in our country. That is a historical experience for us." -
Viktor Orbán, Prime Minister of Hungary, referring to Hungary's occupation
by the Ottoman Empire from 1541 to 1699.
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/10610/migrant-crisis-central-europe
i saw that idiot in canada yesterday raving about how anyone
could go and live in canada..
the cult is against national borders...
and is gathering the force to impose it on the weak and the poor
I saw something earlier that Poles are against illegal immigration... Seemed
that
they were most peeved that illegals want welfare? What is wrong with that?
Don't people
want people to contribute to society?
the prime objective of the immigrant is to better themselves....not to
better the receiving society...
people do not join chess clubs in order the other people may play
chess..
Not sure I understand that logic... If I was wanting to get away from a crap
society and join a new one, why would I bring that crap society with me?
So please re-explain the chess analysis..
Well... Obviously for the long term thinker, the better society you join,
the better you are and the
better you can make that society, the better long term your life will be....
Not collecting welfare
or some such nonsense...
Why the fuck is that such a foreign principle in today's world?
you are intelligent...it is an error to project that on to other
people...most people are not very intelligent...

most people will choose leisure over work...

only a few are seriously driven...

i don't know if that is sufficient reply to you...if not then iterate

parasites also migrate and in a socialist world there are plenty
of them
DoD
2017-07-03 07:53:22 UTC
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Europe's Migrant Crisis: Views from Central Europe
by Soeren Kern
July 2, 2017
Many so-called asylum seekers have refused to relocate to Central and
Eastern Europe because the financial benefits there are not as
generous
as
in France, Germany or Scandinavia. In addition, hundreds of migrants who
have been relocated to Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, which rank
among
the
poorest EU countries, have since fled to Germany and other wealthier
countries in the bloc.
"It needs to be said clearly and directly: This is an attack on
Europe,
on
our culture, on our traditions." - Poland's Prime Minister Beata Szyd?o.
"I think we have a right to decide that we do not want a large number of
Muslim people in our country. That is a historical experience for us." -
Viktor Orbán, Prime Minister of Hungary, referring to Hungary's occupation
by the Ottoman Empire from 1541 to 1699.
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/10610/migrant-crisis-central-europe
i saw that idiot in canada yesterday raving about how anyone
could go and live in canada..
the cult is against national borders...
and is gathering the force to impose it on the weak and the poor
I saw something earlier that Poles are against illegal immigration... Seemed
that
they were most peeved that illegals want welfare? What is wrong with that?
Don't people
want people to contribute to society?
the prime objective of the immigrant is to better themselves....not to
better the receiving society...
people do not join chess clubs in order the other people may play
chess..
Not sure I understand that logic... If I was wanting to get away from a crap
society and join a new one, why would I bring that crap society with me?
So please re-explain the chess analysis..
Well... Obviously for the long term thinker, the better society you join,
the better you are and the
better you can make that society, the better long term your life will be....
Not collecting welfare
or some such nonsense...
Why the fuck is that such a foreign principle in today's world?
you are intelligent...it is an error to project that on to other
people...most people are not very intelligent...
most people will choose leisure over work...
only a few are seriously driven...
i don't know if that is sufficient reply to you...if not then iterate
parasites also migrate and in a socialist world there are plenty
of them
I have said it before... maybe not on this forum, the worst thing you can
do to a person is to take away their drive to make themselves better...

THAT is EXACTLY what the democrats do to America as a whole and
blacks in particular...
abelard
2017-07-03 07:56:38 UTC
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Europe's Migrant Crisis: Views from Central Europe
by Soeren Kern
July 2, 2017
Many so-called asylum seekers have refused to relocate to Central and
Eastern Europe because the financial benefits there are not as
generous
as
in France, Germany or Scandinavia. In addition, hundreds of migrants who
have been relocated to Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, which rank
among
the
poorest EU countries, have since fled to Germany and other wealthier
countries in the bloc.
"It needs to be said clearly and directly: This is an attack on
Europe,
on
our culture, on our traditions." - Poland's Prime Minister Beata Szyd?o.
"I think we have a right to decide that we do not want a large number of
Muslim people in our country. That is a historical experience for us." -
Viktor Orbán, Prime Minister of Hungary, referring to Hungary's occupation
by the Ottoman Empire from 1541 to 1699.
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/10610/migrant-crisis-central-europe
i saw that idiot in canada yesterday raving about how anyone
could go and live in canada..
the cult is against national borders...
and is gathering the force to impose it on the weak and the poor
I saw something earlier that Poles are against illegal immigration... Seemed
that
they were most peeved that illegals want welfare? What is wrong with that?
Don't people
want people to contribute to society?
the prime objective of the immigrant is to better themselves....not to
better the receiving society...
people do not join chess clubs in order the other people may play
chess..
Not sure I understand that logic... If I was wanting to get away from a crap
society and join a new one, why would I bring that crap society with me?
So please re-explain the chess analysis..
Well... Obviously for the long term thinker, the better society you join,
the better you are and the
better you can make that society, the better long term your life will be....
Not collecting welfare
or some such nonsense...
Why the fuck is that such a foreign principle in today's world?
you are intelligent...it is an error to project that on to other
people...most people are not very intelligent...
most people will choose leisure over work...
only a few are seriously driven...
i don't know if that is sufficient reply to you...if not then iterate
parasites also migrate and in a socialist world there are plenty
of them
I have said it before... maybe not on this forum, the worst thing you can
do to a person is to take away their drive to make themselves better...
THAT is EXACTLY what the democrats do to America as a whole and
blacks in particular...
all true...

but you cannot open all the fences and expect your lawnmower to
be where you put by next morning

all sense is a matter of balance
DoD
2017-07-03 08:02:25 UTC
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Europe's Migrant Crisis: Views from Central Europe
by Soeren Kern
July 2, 2017
Many so-called asylum seekers have refused to relocate to Central and
Eastern Europe because the financial benefits there are not as
generous
as
in France, Germany or Scandinavia. In addition, hundreds of
migrants
who
have been relocated to Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, which rank
among
the
poorest EU countries, have since fled to Germany and other wealthier
countries in the bloc.
"It needs to be said clearly and directly: This is an attack on
Europe,
on
our culture, on our traditions." - Poland's Prime Minister Beata Szyd?o.
"I think we have a right to decide that we do not want a large
number
of
Muslim people in our country. That is a historical experience for us." -
Viktor Orbán, Prime Minister of Hungary, referring to Hungary's occupation
by the Ottoman Empire from 1541 to 1699.
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/10610/migrant-crisis-central-europe
i saw that idiot in canada yesterday raving about how anyone
could go and live in canada..
the cult is against national borders...
and is gathering the force to impose it on the weak and the poor
I saw something earlier that Poles are against illegal immigration... Seemed
that
they were most peeved that illegals want welfare? What is wrong with that?
Don't people
want people to contribute to society?
the prime objective of the immigrant is to better themselves....not to
better the receiving society...
people do not join chess clubs in order the other people may play
chess..
Not sure I understand that logic... If I was wanting to get away from
a
crap
society and join a new one, why would I bring that crap society with me?
So please re-explain the chess analysis..
Well... Obviously for the long term thinker, the better society you join,
the better you are and the
better you can make that society, the better long term your life will be....
Not collecting welfare
or some such nonsense...
Why the fuck is that such a foreign principle in today's world?
you are intelligent...it is an error to project that on to other
people...most people are not very intelligent...
most people will choose leisure over work...
only a few are seriously driven...
i don't know if that is sufficient reply to you...if not then iterate
parasites also migrate and in a socialist world there are plenty
of them
I have said it before... maybe not on this forum, the worst thing you can
do to a person is to take away their drive to make themselves better...
THAT is EXACTLY what the democrats do to America as a whole and
blacks in particular...
all true...
but you cannot open all the fences and expect your lawnmower to
be where you put by next morning
all sense is a matter of balance
It would be there if everyone was on the same page....
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2017-07-03 08:12:25 UTC
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Don't people
want people to contribute to society?
the prime objective of the immigrant is to better themselves....not to
better the receiving society...
people do not join chess clubs in order the other people may play
chess..
Not sure I understand that logic... If I was wanting to get away from
a
crap
society and join a new one, why would I bring that crap society with me?
So please re-explain the chess analysis..
Well... Obviously for the long term thinker, the better society you join,
the better you are and the
better you can make that society, the better long term your life will be....
Not collecting welfare
or some such nonsense...
Why the fuck is that such a foreign principle in today's world?
you are intelligent...it is an error to project that on to other
people...most people are not very intelligent...
most people will choose leisure over work...
only a few are seriously driven...
i don't know if that is sufficient reply to you...if not then iterate
parasites also migrate and in a socialist world there are plenty
of them
I have said it before... maybe not on this forum, the worst thing you can
do to a person is to take away their drive to make themselves better...
THAT is EXACTLY what the democrats do to America as a whole and
blacks in particular...
all true...
but you cannot open all the fences and expect your lawnmower to
be where you put by next morning
all sense is a matter of balance
It would be there if everyone was on the same page....
t they are not...in the real world...
people throw rubbish by the wayside and into the oceans

religion tries to mitigate that....socialism tells people about 'their
perfect rights'...and how every one is 'the same' or 'equal'

after the chess club meet, there is one fellow who will tidy
up the room after the meet...there is always one who
will be club secretary...while other slope off down the pub

look at the mess left after the likes of glastonbury...

not all people are equal in the real world
DoD
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Don't people
want people to contribute to society?
the prime objective of the immigrant is to better themselves....not to
better the receiving society...
people do not join chess clubs in order the other people may play
chess..
Not sure I understand that logic... If I was wanting to get away from
a
crap
society and join a new one, why would I bring that crap society with me?
So please re-explain the chess analysis..
Well... Obviously for the long term thinker, the better society you join,
the better you are and the
better you can make that society, the better long term your life will be....
Not collecting welfare
or some such nonsense...
Why the fuck is that such a foreign principle in today's world?
you are intelligent...it is an error to project that on to other
people...most people are not very intelligent...
most people will choose leisure over work...
only a few are seriously driven...
i don't know if that is sufficient reply to you...if not then iterate
parasites also migrate and in a socialist world there are plenty
of them
I have said it before... maybe not on this forum, the worst thing you can
do to a person is to take away their drive to make themselves better...
THAT is EXACTLY what the democrats do to America as a whole and
blacks in particular...
all true...
but you cannot open all the fences and expect your lawnmower to
be where you put by next morning
all sense is a matter of balance
It would be there if everyone was on the same page....
t they are not...in the real world...
people throw rubbish by the wayside and into the oceans
religion tries to mitigate that....socialism tells people about 'their
perfect rights'...and how every one is 'the same' or 'equal'
after the chess club meet, there is one fellow who will tidy
up the room after the meet...there is always one who
will be club secretary...while other slope off down the pub
look at the mess left after the likes of glastonbury...
not all people are equal in the real world
Those are really good real world examples....
Greg Chen
2017-07-08 19:37:00 UTC
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Europe's Migrant Crisis: Views from Central Europe
by Soeren Kern
July 2, 2017
Many so-called asylum seekers have refused to relocate to Central
and Eastern Europe because the financial benefits there are not as
generous as
in France, Germany or Scandinavia. In addition, hundreds of migrants who
have been relocated to Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, which rank among the
poorest EU countries, have since fled to Germany and other
wealthier countries in the bloc.
"It needs to be said clearly and directly: This is an attack on Europe, on
our culture, on our traditions." - Poland's Prime Minister Beata Szyd?o.
"I think we have a right to decide that we do not want a large number of
Muslim people in our country. That is a historical experience for us." -
Viktor Orbán, Prime Minister of Hungary, referring to Hungary's occupation
by the Ottoman Empire from 1541 to 1699.
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/10610/migrant-crisis-central-eur
ope
i saw that idiot in canada yesterday raving about how anyone
could go and live in canada..
the cult is against national borders...
and is gathering the force to impose it on the weak and the poor
I saw something earlier that Poles are against illegal
immigration... Seemed
that
they were most peeved that illegals want welfare? What is wrong with that?
Don't people
want people to contribute to society?
the prime objective of the immigrant is to better themselves....not to
better the receiving society...
people do not join chess clubs in order the other people may play
chess..
Not sure I understand that logic... If I was wanting to get away from a crap
society and join a new one, why would I bring that crap society with me?
So please re-explain the chess analysis..
Well... Obviously for the long term thinker, the better society you
join, the better you are and the
better you can make that society, the better long term your life will
be.... Not collecting welfare
or some such nonsense...
Starting off collecting welfare because you are unqualified to work or too
lazy to work in the society you have invaded is not acceptable.
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Why the fuck is that such a foreign principle in today's world?
Why should I share my bread with an ignorant primitive slug who would
stick a knife in my back at the first opportunity?

It's time to throw those people into the sea or carpet bomb them from
planes back to where they came from.

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2017-07-03 09:35:26 UTC
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people do not join chess clubs in order the other people may play
chess..
Not sure I understand that logic... If I was wanting to get away from a crap
society and join a new one, why would I bring that crap society with me?
Isn't that the same argument the extreme-right uses against Muslim
immigration?
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DoD
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people do not join chess clubs in order the other people may play
chess..
Not sure I understand that logic... If I was wanting to get away from a crap
society and join a new one, why would I bring that crap society with me?
Isn't that the same argument the extreme-right uses against Muslim
immigration?
Seriously dude... you are retarded....
Shelby
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people do not join chess clubs in order the other people may play
chess..
Not sure I understand that logic... If I was wanting to get away from a crap
society and join a new one, why would I bring that crap society with me?
Isn't that the same argument the extreme-right uses against Muslim
immigration?
Seriously dude... you are retarded....
If you don't understand that logic you're dumber than the
Muslims who are pushing you out of your own country.
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