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Can Islam be considered a religion ?
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Byker
2017-06-03 20:23:46 UTC
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Ergo Islam is a huge THREAT to everyone else. The more "pure" a Moslem is,
the less likely they are to put up with YOU.
Islam is not a religion, it's a CULTURE, and a warped one at that:

http://tinyurl.com/y92pzsrz

http://newenglishreview.org/Rebecca_Bynum/Why_Islam_is_Not_a_Religion/

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/02/28/geert-wilders-islam-not-religion-totalitarian-ideology/

https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2016/06/30/foxs-ralph-peters-islam-not-religion-peace/211313

http://washingtonmonthly.com/2016/11/25/the-real-reason-michael-flynns-appointment-is-ominous-islam-is-not-a-religion/

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/islam-religion-muslim-not-sustainable-must-change-reshape-modern-values-edman-aslan-austria-a7547691.html
M.I.Wakefield
2017-06-03 20:42:58 UTC
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Ergo Islam is a huge THREAT to everyone else. The more "pure" a Moslem is,
the less likely they are to put up with YOU.
Islam is a religion, but it's as varied as Christianity. And about the most
extreme are the Wahhabis, which is the sect promoted by the Saudis.
#BeamMeUpScotty
2017-06-04 10:07:39 UTC
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Ergo Islam is a huge THREAT to everyone else. The more "pure" a
Moslem > is,
the less likely they are to put up with YOU.
Islam is a religion, but it's as varied as Christianity. And about the
most extreme are the Wahhabis, which is the sect promoted by the Saudis.
Islam is a malicious virus in the human network.
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That's Karma
abelard
2017-06-04 10:15:16 UTC
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On Sun, 4 Jun 2017 06:07:39 -0400, #BeamMeUpScotty
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Post by M.I.Wakefield
Ergo Islam is a huge THREAT to everyone else. The more "pure" a
Moslem > is,
the less likely they are to put up with YOU.
Islam is a religion, but it's as varied as Christianity. And about the
most extreme are the Wahhabis, which is the sect promoted by the Saudis.
Islam is a malicious virus in the human network.
islamism is a backward religion...socialism is an even more
backward religion

much better you concentrate on islam than on socialism...

or on socialism rather than islam...

what you must not do is concentrate on improving the
real world and the general level of education...
Mr. B1ack
2017-06-04 19:30:05 UTC
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Post by abelard
On Sun, 4 Jun 2017 06:07:39 -0400, #BeamMeUpScotty
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Post by M.I.Wakefield
Ergo Islam is a huge THREAT to everyone else. The more "pure" a
Moslem > is,
the less likely they are to put up with YOU.
Islam is a religion, but it's as varied as Christianity. And about the
most extreme are the Wahhabis, which is the sect promoted by the Saudis.
Islam is a malicious virus in the human network.
islamism is a backward religion...socialism is an even more
backward religion
"Socialism" often claims to be based on Christianity,
the concept of "Christian charity" especially. It's good
and moral to improve the lot of the poor.

However that Jesus guy never said that institutionalized
theft and govt micro-management was the way to go
about it. The State should NOT rob Peter to pay Paul ...
Peter should be encouraged to do so, but isn't actually
obligated. And if Peter thinks Paul is a hopeless bum,
he can help out Luke instead. Paul isn't necessarily
deserving, entitled to, Peters help.

As for Islam ... it *is* a problem right now. Dangerous
to others, destructive and expensive. A hostile meme,
a mind-virus, that too easily leads to a really scary brand
of fanaticism. Nothing more dangerous than people who
think they're "doing gods will" by slaughtering others.
The long-secularized "west" isn't used to that sort of
thinking anymore ... doesn't get it. That leads to errors.

For NOW "Islam" remains an annoyance for the most
part. However the increasing volume, sophistication
and power of numerous primarily-Islamic countries
is changing that picture. Already Pakistan has nuclear
weapons AND the means to deliver them and Iran
probably does too by now. Egypt and Iran also have
large and well-equipped conventional armies.

Egyptians DID elect a president from the Islamic
Brotherhood. Pakistan is always in danger of an
Islamist take-over ... meaning you-know-who would
get control of the nukes. IMHO India would have to
launch a pre-emptive attack if Islamists took over
Pakistan.

So, both the extremist sentiment AND the means
to persue it exist in the Islamiverse right now. That
"annoyance" can turn into a huge, very real, threat
any time now.
Byker
2017-06-04 19:34:20 UTC
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"Socialism" often claims to be based on Christianity,
the concept of "Christian charity" especially. It's good
and moral to improve the lot of the poor.
Who can forget "Revolution Theology" in Central America during the 1980s
abelard
2017-06-04 20:59:37 UTC
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"Socialism" often claims to be based on Christianity,
the concept of "Christian charity" especially. It's good
and moral to improve the lot of the poor.
Who can forget "Revolution Theology" in Central America during the 1980s
liberation theology is socialist dressed up in christian semantics...

it's been condemned several times by popes and church princes
Mr. B1ack
2017-06-05 01:54:46 UTC
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"Socialism" often claims to be based on Christianity,
the concept of "Christian charity" especially. It's good
and moral to improve the lot of the poor.
Who can forget "Revolution Theology" in Central America during the 1980s
liberation theology is socialist dressed up in christian semantics...
it's been condemned several times by popes and church princes
Christianity is a slave religion ... the central message
is to just put up with your lot in life because, once
you're dead, it'll be better. It is not a "revolutionary"
religion.
abelard
2017-06-05 08:32:29 UTC
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"Socialism" often claims to be based on Christianity,
the concept of "Christian charity" especially. It's good
and moral to improve the lot of the poor.
Who can forget "Revolution Theology" in Central America during the 1980s
liberation theology is socialist dressed up in christian semantics...
it's been condemned several times by popes and church princes
Christianity is a slave religion ... the central message
is to just put up with your lot in life because, once
you're dead, it'll be better. It is not a "revolutionary"
religion.
a rather trite approach

next you'll be telling the world that god is ded
Byker
2017-06-05 17:36:48 UTC
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next you'll be telling the world that god is ded
Time magazine already did: http://tinyurl.com/y6v2ucwe

April 8, 1966
abelard
2017-06-05 17:41:53 UTC
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next you'll be telling the world that god is ded
Time magazine already did: http://tinyurl.com/y6v2ucwe
April 8, 1966
exactly...nietsche was also at it...so was marx...

they call it things like 'progressive' and 'secular'...

but they don't end up improving society or the lot of
the masses...or the little of them for that matter

#BeamMeUpScotty
2017-06-04 21:10:57 UTC
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On Sun, 4 Jun 2017 06:07:39 -0400, #BeamMeUpScotty
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Post by M.I.Wakefield
Ergo Islam is a huge THREAT to everyone else. The more "pure" a
Moslem > is,
the less likely they are to put up with YOU.
Islam is a religion, but it's as varied as Christianity. And about the
most extreme are the Wahhabis, which is the sect promoted by the Saudis.
Islam is a malicious virus in the human network.
islamism is a backward religion...socialism is an even more
backward religion
"Socialism" often claims to be based on Christianity,
the concept of "Christian charity" especially. It's good
and moral to improve the lot of the poor.
However that Jesus guy never said that institutionalized
theft and govt micro-management was the way to go
about it. The State should NOT rob Peter to pay Paul ...
Peter should be encouraged to do so, but isn't actually
obligated. And if Peter thinks Paul is a hopeless bum,
he can help out Luke instead. Paul isn't necessarily
deserving, entitled to, Peters help.
As for Islam ... it *is* a problem right now. Dangerous
to others, destructive and expensive. A hostile meme,
a mind-virus, that too easily leads to a really scary brand
of fanaticism. Nothing more dangerous than people who
think they're "doing gods will" by slaughtering others.
The long-secularized "west" isn't used to that sort of
thinking anymore ... doesn't get it. That leads to errors.
And Islam is creating a need for western Fascism....

The fascist states are becoming more Fascist to deal with the
terrorists. The terrorists may be a false flag by the Governments that
want increased Fascist power over their people to ensure that they stay
in power and can keep stealing from the people.
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That's Karma
abelard
2017-06-03 21:21:52 UTC
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Post by Byker
Ergo Islam is a huge THREAT to everyone else. The more "pure" a Moslem is,
the less likely they are to put up with YOU.
http://tinyurl.com/y92pzsrz
http://newenglishreview.org/Rebecca_Bynum/Why_Islam_is_Not_a_Religion/
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/02/28/geert-wilders-islam-not-religion-totalitarian-ideology/
https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2016/06/30/foxs-ralph-peters-islam-not-religion-peace/211313
http://washingtonmonthly.com/2016/11/25/the-real-reason-michael-flynns-appointment-is-ominous-islam-is-not-a-religion/
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/islam-religion-muslim-not-sustainable-must-change-reshape-modern-values-edman-aslan-austria-a7547691.html
“ Among religions, Bolshevism is to be reckoned with Mohammedanism
rather than with Christianity and Buddhism. Christianity and Buddhism
are primarily personal religions, with mystical doctrines and a love
of contemplation. Mohammedanism and Bolshevism are practical, social,
unspiritual, concerned to win the empire of the world.......”spacer on
socialist religions briefing document [Russell, p.74]

The practice and theory of bolshevism, first published in 1920
james g. keegan jr.
2017-06-03 21:30:58 UTC
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Post by Byker
Ergo Islam is a huge THREAT to everyone else. The more "pure" a Moslem is,
the less likely they are to put up with YOU.
http://tinyurl.com/y92pzsrz
http://newenglishreview.org/Rebecca_Bynum/Why_Islam_is_Not_a_Religion/
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/02/28/geert-wilders-islam-not-religion-totalitarian-ideology/
https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2016/06/30/foxs-ralph-peters-islam-not-religion-peace/211313
http://washingtonmonthly.com/2016/11/25/the-real-reason-michael-flynns-appointment-is-ominous-islam-is-not-a-religion/
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/islam-religion-muslim-not-sustainable-must-change-reshape-modern-values-edman-aslan-austria-a7547691.html
“ Among religions, Bolshevism
Bullshit.
Byker
2017-06-03 23:05:29 UTC
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Post by james g. keegan jr.
“ Among religions, Bolshevism
Bullshit.
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2004/10/islam-a-totalitarian-ideology

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3348/islamic-ideology-totalitarian

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2012/10/tackling_the_totalitarianism_of_islam.html

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/250189/who-says-islam-totalitarian-andrew-c-mccarthy

http://www.centerforinquiry.net/secularislam/islamic_viewpoints/the_totalitarian_nature_of_islam/
Mr. B1ack
2017-06-03 21:39:24 UTC
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Ergo Islam is a huge THREAT to everyone else. The more "pure" a Moslem is,
the less likely they are to put up with YOU.
It's a relgion that is ALSO a "culture". It's a very
clever scheme ... theological totalitarianism. The
religion is in *everything* all day every day. You're
never more than a few hours from required prayers,
the religion is also the Law. All-encompassing,
all-consuming, a universe unto itself.

There were times when Christianity kinda veered
that way, but never reached the psychological
saturation Islam achieved.
Byker
2017-06-03 23:07:04 UTC
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Post by M.I.Wakefield
Islam is a religion, but it's as varied as Christianity. And about the
most extreme are the Wahhabis, which is the sect promoted by the Saudis.
And funded and exported en masse to the rest of the world...
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