Discussion:
Will Prince Charles remind us not to forget Mohammed this Xmas?
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Byker
2017-12-08 22:44:24 UTC
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He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5

Never mind that his grandson is a potential terror target:
https://tinyurl.com/yddwa8n4
de chucka
2017-12-08 23:16:03 UTC
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Post by Byker
He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5
Good
Post by Byker
https://tinyurl.com/yddwa8n4
Fran
2017-12-09 23:02:34 UTC
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Post by Byker
He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5
Good
Post by Byker
https://tinyurl.com/yddwa8n4
You didn't poke a stick in the eye of that idiot Byker about the last
idiot comment. Charles knows far more about the threat from terrorists
than the idiot Byker would ever know having lost his favourite great
Uncle to a terrorist attack many decades ago.
abelard
2017-12-10 11:55:45 UTC
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On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 10:02:34 +1100, Fran
Post by Fran
Post by Byker
He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5
Good
Post by Byker
https://tinyurl.com/yddwa8n4
You didn't poke a stick in the eye of that idiot Byker about the last
idiot comment. Charles knows far more about the threat from terrorists
than the idiot Byker would ever know having lost his favourite great
Uncle to a terrorist attack many decades ago.
i know far more about driving because someone in the
next street died in a car crash...
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Ned Latham
2017-12-30 13:24:12 UTC
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Post by Byker
He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5
Good
Getting the story wrong is good? Get it into your pointy luttle
head, moron: the story is that they went to Bethlehem for the
purposes of the censys, not to escape some mythical "persecution".
Johnny-Knowall
2017-12-30 14:20:46 UTC
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Post by Ned Latham
Post by Byker
He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5
Good
Getting the story wrong is good? Get it into your pointy luttle
head, moron: the story is that they went to Bethlehem for the
purposes of the censys, not to escape some mythical "persecution".
Although, in any intelligent society the census enumerator would come to
their home; and they wouldn’t have to go anywhere.

That way, the enumerator can record their place of residence as well as their
names and gender(s).
Ned Latham
2017-12-30 20:40:47 UTC
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Post by Johnny-Knowall
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Byker
He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5
Good
Getting the story wrong is good? Get it into your pointy luttle
head, moron: the story is that they went to Bethlehem for the
purposes of the census, not to escape some mythical "persecution".
Although, in any intelligent society the census enumerator would
come to their home; and they wouldn't have to go anywhere.
LOL. You think modern societies are intelligent? Look around you.
Post by Johnny-Knowall
That way, the enumerator can record their place of residence as
well as their names and gender(s).
And in a society that recognises people's attachments to their tribal
origins the censors can record those details that are important to
*them* rather than to modern Westerners.
Johnny-Knowall
2017-12-30 20:48:35 UTC
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Post by Ned Latham
Post by Johnny-Knowall
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Byker
He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5
Good
Getting the story wrong is good? Get it into your pointy luttle
head, moron: the story is that they went to Bethlehem for the
purposes of the census, not to escape some mythical "persecution".
Although, in any intelligent society the census enumerator would
come to their home; and they wouldn't have to go anywhere.
LOL. You think modern societies are intelligent? Look around you.
Post by Johnny-Knowall
That way, the enumerator can record their place of residence as
well as their names and gender(s).
And in a society that recognises people's attachments to their tribal
origins the censors can record those details that are important to
*them* rather than to modern Westerners.
I see.

Presumably the society you speak of didn’t worry that people could make up
any home “address” and no one would be any the wiser?

And, if Mary and Joseph were not married at the time of the birth of Jesus;
what does that say about the morals of the society he was born into?

I wonder what Joseph’s parents thought; especially when Joseph revealed he
wasn’t the father of her baby?
Ned Latham
2017-12-31 02:13:57 UTC
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Post by Johnny-Knowall
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Johnny-Knowall
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Byker
He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5
Good
Getting the story wrong is good? Get it into your pointy luttle
head, moron: the story is that they went to Bethlehem for the
purposes of the census, not to escape some mythical "persecution".
Although, in any intelligent society the census enumerator would
come to their home; and they wouldn't have to go anywhere.
LOL. You think modern societies are intelligent? Look around you.
Post by Johnny-Knowall
That way, the enumerator can record their place of residence as
well as their names and gender(s).
And in a society that recognises people's attachments to their tribal
origins the censors can record those details that are important to
*them* rather than to modern Westerners.
I see.
Presumably the society you speak of didn't worry that people could
make up any home "address" and no one would be any the wiser?
Do please open the box and install yoiur brain.

This is about the Israel 2000 years ago, They weren't organised in
anything *like* the way modern Western societies are.
Post by Johnny-Knowall
And, if Mary and Joseph were not married at the time of the birth
of Jesus; what does that say about the morals of the society he was
born into?
Nothing. There have been many societies in which prospective brides
are tested for fertitliy.
Post by Johnny-Knowall
I wonder what Joseph's parents thought; especially when Joseph
revealed he wasn't the father of her baby?
That part of the story was invented long after Joshua's death.
Ned Latham
2017-12-31 03:08:28 UTC
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That was tne ugly sow's lapdog, aka the Foreskin Peeler
(you know, the cowardly retard that sometimes calls itself "Ördög"),
spewing forth its usual obsessive ranting impersonation of me.
When you see an article with my name on it, check the headers:
my email address and Messgae-ID have matching domains. Yap-Yap's
imitations do not.

Check the Newsgroups: and Followup-To: headers too: he's a
sneaky little lunatic.
In that case your Holy Ghost borders on committing paedophilia,
because Mary was said to be only 12 years old when Jesus was born.
Yap-Yap wouldn't mind that; he's a stalinist: doesn't care about
anyone or any thing beyond himself and his delusaions.
Given that your said ghost could have chosen from millions of
older women, it is looking somewhat dodgy given the current
trend for bringing child sexual abuse cases, don't you think?
On the vutton, Johnny: Yap-Yap don't think.
I have discovered that the reason we will have difficulty knowing
of Joseph's parents' views, because he was 90 years old at the
birth (something that seems not to be portrayed in many Nativity
scenes at this time of year).
Why ever not, I wonder.
I'm beginning to think
That's good.
this religion stuff is not for me.
Nor *anyone* sane. Pity about pore ole Yap-Tap: we can't find a
sane dog willing to bite him.
A 90 year old man with a 12 year old girl? Ewwwwww!
How about Mohammed? His fourth wife was 7 when they were married
(they say she was 9 when he first fucked her).
Ned Latham
2017-12-31 03:15:44 UTC
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Tne ugly sow's lapdog, aka the Foreskin Peeler
(you know, the cowardly retard that sometimes calls itself "Ördög")
I'd say
Of course you would, Yap-Tap. You're full of it.

Now do what your were told: get back on your medication.

abelard
2017-12-09 12:01:10 UTC
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Post by Byker
He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5
https://tinyurl.com/yddwa8n4
he's the one who talks to cabbages...

he believes brits have the same status
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Graham T
2017-12-09 13:02:58 UTC
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Post by abelard
Post by Byker
He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5
https://tinyurl.com/yddwa8n4
he's the one who talks to cabbages...
he believes brits have the same status
I can't see the problem. If it's ok for us to drop bombs on Muslim kids
in their own country then it's ok for Muslims to blow Georgey Porgie to
bits here too.
abelard
2017-12-09 13:06:48 UTC
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On Sat, 9 Dec 2017 13:02:58 +0000, Graham T
Post by Graham T
Post by abelard
Post by Byker
He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5
https://tinyurl.com/yddwa8n4
he's the one who talks to cabbages...
he believes brits have the same status
I can't see the problem. If it's ok for us to drop bombs on Muslim kids
in their own country then it's ok for Muslims to blow Georgey Porgie to
bits here too.
as long as you rely on tough fit men to protect
your snowflake arse

you will have the same status as sheep in a pen
--
www.abelard.org
Byker
2017-12-09 17:44:12 UTC
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I can't see the problem. If it's ok for us to drop bombs on Muslim kids in
their own country then it's ok for Muslims to blow Georgey Porgie to bits
here too.
We'll see how long Britain remains "multicultural" after a "martyr" turns
the little prince into cube steak. Chances are within a year -- two years
tops -- there won't be a Muslim to be had anywhere in the UK and probably in
the Commonwealth, all having been rounded up, interned, deported, or run out
of the country. The mudslimes will be grateful they weren't sent up
chimneys.

There is that saying, "You must be lucky always..."

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4790594/isis-threat-prince-george-royal-family/

https://nypost.com/2014/11/07/plot-to-assassinate-queen-elizabeth-thwarted-by-bobbies/

https://nypost.com/2017/10/29/isis-supporters-make-chilling-threat-against-prince-george/

https://www.cheatsheet.com/culture/times-people-tried-to-kill-the-british-royal-family.html/

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/david-cameron-reveals-islamic-state-plot-to-kill-the-queen-royals/news-story/bcdcbeee839679ff912ee17a77d5e06c


Maybe Charles is trying appeasement of his own:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/245324/british-royal-family-and-islamist-terrorists-howard-rotberg
Petzl
2017-12-09 20:41:56 UTC
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On Sat, 9 Dec 2017 13:02:58 +0000, Graham T
Post by Graham T
Post by abelard
Post by Byker
He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5
https://tinyurl.com/yddwa8n4
he's the one who talks to cabbages...
he believes brits have the same status
I can't see the problem. If it's ok for us to drop bombs on Muslim kids
in their own country then it's ok for Muslims to blow Georgey Porgie to
bits here too.
It's a duty to eradicate Islam before it eradicates you
You're not being tolerant. You're not being inclusive. You're not
being open-minded... You're being conquered."
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Italian immigration was an advance point for Australia, followed by
Greek immigration, then Asian all provided positive growth, benefits.

The failure has and is Moslem immigration where over 30 years they are
planted in West Sydney it is a proven disaster which is forbidden to
be spoken about.
Reality is
This is a Islamic invasion/war by Stealth!

Moslems are also history killers and twist historical facts and truth
they call taqiyya kitman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiya
Facts are:-
This Trojan horse invasion by Moslems was invented by Mohammed when he
and his marauding followers fled Mecca in AD 622 to Yathrib now called
Medina. Claiming “refugee status”
Medina welcomed them as “our” government does today!

ISIS is doing nothing that the Moslem’s “Prophet” Mohammed wouldn’t
do!
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/05/the_greatest_murder_machine_in_history.html
Mohammad himself was once a (claimed) refugee taken in by the Jewish
run city of Medina, then called Yathrib (fleeing Mecca AD 622).
https://www.britannica.com/event/Hijrah-Islam
Within five years, Mohammed (joining with other invading “marauding
refugees”) had driven out, executed, or enslaved every Jew living in
Medina
https://www.britannica.com/place/Medina-Saudi-Arabia

For around 1,400 years Islam has produced the major majority of the
worlds “refugees”! Always fleeing from what they created!

Still the same today!

This Trojan horse invasion continues WHY?
Moslems and Islam are of course synonymous with terror!
It was and is a CRIME to allow Moslems in. Every politician is
obligated to know the history of foreign people they bring in. If they
had done even a little bit of study they would have found a
bloodthirsty people, full of hate and terrorism.?

Mohammad invented this sort of invasion by stealth, Centuries old
still used today.
The success of thier blood lust carnage is that Moslem have made their
Calender year begining AD 622

"Our" repomse is to declare a war on "terror"?
1: You can’t declare war on a tactic – TERROR.
2: You can’t win if the “Good Guys” your soldiers are dying for are
just a different type of bad guy.
3: You can’t win if you promote the problem – ISLAM.
4: And you can’t win overseas if you are losing at home

--
Petzl
Only one turnout that matters and that was on election day and Trump won.
So all you lefties sucking on your sour grapes. all the snowflakes cry babies,
a lot of them in the media who have been sent insane by Trumps mere presence in Washington.
Well they can just sit back and lap it up ,

Because the Donald has won,

And why because he's going to drain the swamp,
he's going to get rid of all the self serving semi-corrupt mob in Washington
and give the American people a new direction on border protection,
on job creation, on foreign policy,

Trump stands for a non-interventionist foreign policy,
something the left have been calling for since Vietnam.
The truth is they can't see that because Trump has offended the cult of identity politics,
judging everyone by their race gender and sexuality.

Trump judges people on their character, their work ethic
and has a very good chance to make America great again.
Byker
2017-12-09 22:37:54 UTC
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Post by Petzl
It's a duty to eradicate Islam before it eradicates you
You're not being tolerant. You're not being inclusive. You're not
being open-minded... You're being conquered."
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJ-4y-3UMAAVWQD.jpg
I think Islam hates us: https://tinyurl.com/y849y43a

Why stop at Isis when we could bomb the whole Muslim world?
https://tinyurl.com/ycosy7jc

How to stop jihad in the West

-- Call for profiling of Muslims at airports and in hiring in professions in
which national security and public safety could be compromised.

-- Call for immediate investigation into foreign mosque funding in the West
and for new legislation making foreign funding of mosques in non-Muslim
nations illegal.

-- Call for surveillance of mosques and regular inspections of mosques in
the U.S. and other non-Muslim nations to look for pro-violence materials.
Any mosque advocating jihad or any aspects of Shariah that conflict with
constitutional freedoms and protections should be closed.

-- Call for curriculum and Islam-related materials in textbooks and museums
to describe the Islamic doctrine and history accurately, including its
violent doctrines and 1,400-year war against unbelievers.

-- Call for a halt of foreign aid to Islamic nations with Shariah-based
constitutions and/or governments.

-- Denounce the use of Shariah law in any Western court or nation.

-- Advocate deportation hearings against non-citizens who promote jihad in
our nations.

-- Call for an immediate halt of immigration by Muslims into nations that do
not currently have a Muslim majority population.

-- Call for laws providing that anyone seeking citizenship in the United
States should be asked if he or she supports Shariah law, and investigated
for ties to pro-Shariah groups. If so, citizenship should not be granted.

-- Call for the cancellation of citizenship or permanent residency status
for anyone who leaves the country of his residence to travel for the purpose
of engaging in jihad activity, and for the refusal of re-entry into his
country of residence after that jihad activity.

-- Call for careful investigation of Muslims resident in non-Muslim
countries who have obtained naturalized citizenship or permanent residency
status, to ensure that that status was not obtained under false pretenses.

-- Call for a halt to any mosque building in the United States and follow
the advice, at the state level, that Publius Huldah has outlined regarding
the practice of Islam (http://tinyurl.com/mljxh7p).

-- Stop the support of any and all Muslim-founded or owned private
businesses, along with or businesses that support them.

If these steps are implemented, the jihad in the West will be stopped in its
tracks.

If you are around an immediate jihad threat, well, then a .45, .223, or
various other calibers of weapons should do the trick in the immediate
circumstances. ;-)
Post by Petzl
This is a Islamic invasion/war by Stealth!
http://youtu.be/81P0-jQSiN4
A woman from upstate New York has written a blog piece as a warning about
what happens when Muslim refugees begin to “take over” an American city. In
this particular case, the city is Utica, New York. The city of Utica was
mostly Anglo-Saxon until someone in government, just like was the case with
Minneapolis, Minnesota and the Somalian Refugees decided that wasn’t a good
thing, so they started shipping in scumbag Muslim refugees to overtake the
Anglo-Saxon population.

This is the blog post in its entirety, long but well worth the read. The
link is still good: http://bit.ly/2rFkCT6
Byker
2017-12-09 22:52:45 UTC
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Moslems are also history killers and twist historical facts and truth they
call taqiyya kitman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiya
The Hadith makes it clear that Muslims are allowed to lie to unbelievers in
order to defeat them or protect themselves:

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/taqiyya.aspx
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/calling-spade-spade-islamic-extermism-by-any-other-name-12197
ISIS is doing nothing that the Moslem’s “Prophet” Mohammed wouldn’t do!
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/05/the_greatest_murder_machine_in_history.html
Islam is genocide: https://tinyurl.com/yandaflb
For around 1,400 years Islam has produced the major majority of the worlds
“refugees”! Always fleeing from what they created!
Still the same today!
We can’t save Muslims from themselves. We can only save ourselves from their
violence. The permanent Muslim refugee crisis will never stop being our
crisis unless we close the door: https://tinyurl.com/znllf6r

How Islam is a danger to Liberals

-- Islam is a threat to women, because Islamic teachings allow for the
beating of women “from whom you fear disobedience,” as well as the
downgrading of a woman’s testimony and inheritance rights. The Qur’an
sanctions polygamy, child marriage, and even the sexual enslavement of
captive non-Muslim women. These are not just teachings that “Islamophobes”
have discovered in dusty corners of the Islamic holy book that no Muslim
today takes seriously; women face all kinds of oppression throughout the
Islamic world that the oppressors directly justify by reference to Islam.

-- Islam is a threat to Jews, because in all too many Islamic teachings and
traditions, Jews are the villains of the piece. The Qur’an depicts the Jews
as inveterately evil and bent on destroying the well-being of the Muslims.
They are the strongest of all people in enmity toward the Muslims (5:82);
being transformed into apes and pigs for breaking the Sabbath (2:63-65;
5:59-60; 7:166); and more. In line with this, Jews are threatened in Europe
to an extent they have not been since the days of Hitler. And it’s getting
worse by the day.

-- Islam is a threat to Christians, for it mandates that they must either
convert to Islam, submit to Islamic hegemony, and be killed – the same
triple choice offered to the Jews. The Christian communities of the Middle
East, some of which dated back to the time of Christ, were decimated, as
jihad groups targeted Christians wholesale as symbols of the hated U.S. and
West.

-- Islam is a threat to secular liberals, because although noting the fact
will get one dismissed as a “far-right” “Islamophobe,” Islam really does
have doctrines mandating the conquest and subjugation of non-Muslims, and
the major Muslim organizations in the United States really do behave as if
they would like nothing better than the weakening and ultimate downfall of
the U.S. government and free society, by opposing virtually all
counterterror initiatives; polarizing American society by claiming falsely
that Muslims are the victims of large-scale persecution and harassment in
the U.S.; and stigmatizing all those who call attention to the jihad threat
and the devastation wrought in Europe by mass Muslim migration as “racists”
and “hatemongers.”

-- Islam is a threat to secular Muslims, because many have come to the West
as a refuge from Sharia, and now the oppression they left behind in their
home countries has followed them to their new homes. Islam in all its
traditional and classic formulations mandates a death penalty for someone
who is sane, adult and leaves Islam voluntarily. This discourages apostasy,
obviously, but it also makes for untold numbers of silent apostates who live
outwardly as Muslims while dissenting inwardly. Islamic hardliners target
these people, when they find them, no less than they target open apostates.
Byker
2017-12-09 22:57:02 UTC
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This Trojan horse invasion continues WHY? Moslems and Islam are of course
synonymous with terror! It was and is a CRIME to allow Moslems in. Every
politician is obligated to know the history of foreign people they bring
in. If they had done even a little bit of study they would have found a
bloodthirsty people, full of hate and terrorism.?
Mohammad invented this sort of invasion by stealth, Centuries old still
used today.
The success of their blood lust carnage is that Moslem have made their
Calendar year beginning AD 622
A few more ways for the West to rid itself of Islam:

Vigorously prosecute all those involved in polygamy, forced marriage,
"honor" violence or female genital mutilation.

Reintroduce sedition laws (where repealed) and prosecute all transgressors
and enablers.

Legislate Western culture and value sets as dominant.

Prohibit all manifestations of sharia law and all dissemination and advocacy
of sharia law.

Abolish sharia courts where they exist.

Remove charitable status from mosques and other Muslim money-raising
institutions.

Remove all restrictions on freedom of speech except for incitement to
violence; repeal all hate speech laws.

Stop all further immigration, including immigration based on family
reunification.

Muslims may privately owe their religious loyalty to Islam, however they
must publicly declare their civic loyalty to their country of citizenship.

Ban the public call to prayer.

Disperse groups praying in the street or other public places.

Deport all foreign-born convicted terrorists, regardless of human rights
legislation.

Former and new immigrants must sign a Pledge of Allegiance to a stated set
of values, under threat of losing their citizenship/ immigrant status and
being deported for breaking the pledge.

Naturalized citizens who have violated the criminal code will be
de-naturalized and deported.

Reclaim universities, schools, churches, the media, local councils, the
civil service and the professions. This requires an ideological purge, in
which advocates of anti-Western and pro-Islam ideologies are removed from
their posts in educational, cultural and media institutions.

Institute a counter-multiculturalism ideology in the schools and society,
teaching the people that multiculturalism is an ideology aimed at
dismantling our culture.

Repeal all laws, programs, and policies that advance group rights and
multiculturalism. Everyone is equal under the law and there is no basis for
making some more equal than others based on their skin color or religion.

Discard the history books which describe our culture and civilization as one
of genocide and oppression. Rebuild the national identities of our children
via the teaching of unbiased truth thus allowing them possession of a
cultural heritage without shame.

Promote each Western country's national language as the language of
government and require immigrants to learn it within a given time period.

Encourage family values and child-rearing to reverse our demographic
decline.

Prohibit foreign countries from financing, investing in and contributing to
all religious, cultural and educational institutions.

Outlaw sharia-compliant financial instruments.

Outlaw Islamic state ownership of sensitive Western assets such as stock
exchanges, ports, security firms, defense contractors and such.

Declare that Islam is incompatible with 21st century, secular, liberal
democracy.

Monitor mosques for content and close mosques found to be promoting
terrorism, sedition or homophobic violence.

Stop the building of any new mosques funded by foreign states.

Remove local government funding for all radical Muslim organizations and
associations in the public sphere.

Expel all foreign-born imams.

Legislate to ensure all domestic imams speak the native language within the
mosque.

Obtain reciprocity from all Islamic countries with respect to existing
foreign-funded mosques in each country (i.e., for existing mosques to remain
open, demand the right for equivalent numbers of churches/ synagogues in
respective countries).

Obtain reciprocal rights to proselytize in each Islamic trading country.

Obtain reciprocal rights for foreigners visiting Islamic countries including
freedoms related to dress codes, food and liquor consumption, property
ownership, right to worship and others.

Confiscate all Western-held funds for Islamic states that finance terrorism
and promote sharia in the West.

Limit child benefit to a maximum of two children.

Make tax evasion and benefit fraud deportable offences.

Since one eighth of zakat goes to jihad make it illegal or at the very least
remove its charitable status.

Regularly inspect takeaways and curry houses for environmental health and
safety and immigration status of employees.

Taxi drivers as part of licensing process to be checked and refused licenses
if found to have criminal records. DNA sample to be taken at application as
they often use brothers and cousins.

No use of translators or signs in foreign languages.

Set up tax task force to tackle tax fraud of businesses paid in cash, and a
special database to tackle insurance fraud.

Set up money laundering task force.

Seizure of family assets for not informing authorities of jihadis in family.

Reform Council Tax to better represent numbers of adults in family
accommodation, e.g., a 25% surcharge for every adult over 18 where more than
2 in a house.

All streets and buildings with Islamic names to be renamed.

Money transfers to Islamic countries to be vetted/ taxed and provable as
being from legitimate source, otherwise seized.

Make harboring or employment of illegal immigrants a deportable offence and/
or subject to confiscation of assets.

Any GP providing false information on medical certificates for insurance
claims or to prevent deportation to be struck off GMC.

Abolish the Equality and Human Rights Commission

Make it illegal to marry cousins and deport any immigrant who does so.

End 'positive discrimination' (Affirmative Action) in employment, etc.

Increase costs of soft courses such as Islamic studies/ cultural studies/
media studies and use the money to subsidize hard sciences, technology,
engineering, etc.

Council houses to be allocated not on basis of need but on local roots and
time spent on waiting list.

Cash inducements for voluntary repatriation.

Immigrant sex offenders to be deported.

Disbar Muslims from employment at airports and other security sensitive
installations.

Support India in combating jihad.

Put legal height restriction on mosques; minarets above this height to be
reduced.

No further mosques to be built.

Any Muslim going abroad on jihad should not be allowed back into the
country.

Friends, relatives and associates of Muslims found guilty of spreading
sedition etc. to be investigated. If there is reasonable suspicion that they
knew about the activity of the guilty person and did not inform the
authorities, then they too should be deported.

Shut down Muslim-only prayer rooms in public spaces (universities, airports,
hospitals etc.).

Withdraw the right to citizenship through birth (perhaps make it dependent
on at least one grandparent born in the UK).

End dual citizenship.

Close down mosques and Muslim facilities in prisons.

Keep Muslim prisoners separate from others.

Ban halal slaughter/ meat.

Ban the burka/hijab.

Elect new leaders dedicated to implementing the above measures.

http://tinyurl.com/qeko3vb (link sure went dead fast!)
Basil Jet
2017-12-10 00:36:26 UTC
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Vigorously prosecute all those involved in polygamy,
Polygamous marriages are not allowed here
Post by Byker
"honor" violence
That is vigorously prosecuted already
Post by Byker
or female genital mutilation.
FGM is not ordered by Islam and is a cultural practice in certain
countries. Pakistanis have no FGM. Male genital mutilation, on the other
hand, is ordered by Islam, so why not vigorously prosecute that? Was the
list perhaps written by a Jew?
Petzl
2017-12-10 01:17:36 UTC
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Post by Byker
Vigorously prosecute all those involved in polygamy,
Polygamous marriages are not allowed here
Post by Byker
"honor" violence
That is vigorously prosecuted already
Post by Byker
or female genital mutilation.
FGM is not ordered by Islam and is a cultural practice in certain
countries. Pakistanis have no FGM. Male genital mutilation, on the other
hand, is ordered by Islam, so why not vigorously prosecute that? Was the
list perhaps written by a Jew?
A problem with Moslem's is they have little understanding of their
Quran (much of it old testament)
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Petzl
The ONLY thing "Islamic" about "Halal Certification" is they both fund terrorism through what is described as "Zakat" a tax to fund those fighting for Allah.

NOTHING about "Halal Certification" is Halal
To say otherwise is to call Allah. his messenger liars the Quran lies
Devout Moslem's will not touch "Halal Certification" as it is putting itself above Allah and. his messenger .
There is a curse in the Quran for those that ever touch "Halal Certification"
https://quran.com/5/87-97?translations=20
Government Shill #2
2017-12-10 03:02:59 UTC
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Post by Petzl
A problem with Moslem's is they have little understanding of their
Quran (much of it old testament)
A problem with Christians is they have little understanding of their
bible (much of it old testament).

Deuteronomy
22:28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay
hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; [That is, he raped her]

22:29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty
shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he
may not put her away all his days.

Shill #2
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"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good
people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people
to do evil things, that takes religion."
Steven Weinberg
Petzl
2017-12-10 07:25:17 UTC
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Post by Government Shill #2
Post by Petzl
A problem with Moslem's is they have little understanding of their
Quran (much of it old testament)
A problem with Christians is they have little understanding of their
bible (much of it old testament).
Nope Christians regard the New Testament as fulfillment of the old,
only using it for enlightenment.
--
Petzl
Tiberius Caesar who reigned for 22 years,
and his last year was AD 37. wrote:

"The extremities of Spain, the various parts of Gaul, the regions of
Britain which have never been penetrated by Roman arms, have received
the religion of Christ."
Bruce S
2017-12-10 18:11:16 UTC
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On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 14:02:59 +1100, Government Shill #2
Post by Government Shill #2
Post by Petzl
A problem with Moslem's is they have little understanding of their
Quran (much of it old testament)
A problem with Christians is they have little understanding of their
bible (much of it old testament).
Nope Christians regard the New Testament as fulfillment of the old,
only using it for enlightenment.
So, you (and the rest of those who claim Christianity) will stop trying
to put up graven images of (one version of) the Ten Commandments, since
they're OT? Or didn't you realize that? While you're at it, you'll
stop quoting from the scribblings of superstitious primitives in such
nonsense as Leviticus to support your bigotry and hatred? Good deal!
I look forward to a world where Christians restrict their incoherent
nonsense to the Beatitudes. Maybe you can all stop (yes, I realize
it's only the silliest who do this) pretending the Earth is only a few
thousand years old, or that some 600 year old guy built a boat to save
all the species of the entire planet from a flood your psychopathic
mass murderer magical invisible friend caused. Or is that too much to
ask?
abelard
2017-12-10 23:11:20 UTC
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Post by Petzl
On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 14:02:59 +1100, Government Shill #2
Post by Government Shill #2
Post by Petzl
A problem with Moslem's is they have little understanding of their
Quran (much of it old testament)
A problem with Christians is they have little understanding of their
bible (much of it old testament).
Nope Christians regard the New Testament as fulfillment of the old,
only using it for enlightenment.
So, you (and the rest of those who claim Christianity) will stop trying
to put up graven images
do you suppose that means photos and sketches?
Post by Bruce S
of (one version of) the Ten Commandments, since
they're OT? Or didn't you realize that? While you're at it, you'll
stop quoting from the scribblings of superstitious primitives in such
nonsense as Leviticus to support your bigotry and hatred? Good deal!
I look forward to a world where Christians restrict their incoherent
nonsense to the Beatitudes. Maybe you can all stop (yes, I realize
it's only the silliest who do this) pretending the Earth is only a few
thousand years old, or that some 600 year old guy built a boat to save
all the species of the entire planet from a flood your psychopathic
mass murderer magical invisible friend caused. Or is that too much to
ask?
--
www.abelard.org
Petzl
2017-12-11 00:02:26 UTC
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Post by Bruce S
Post by Petzl
On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 14:02:59 +1100, Government Shill #2
Post by Government Shill #2
Post by Petzl
A problem with Moslem's is they have little understanding of their
Quran (much of it old testament)
A problem with Christians is they have little understanding of their
bible (much of it old testament).
Nope Christians regard the New Testament as fulfillment of the old,
only using it for enlightenment.
So, you (and the rest of those who claim Christianity) will stop trying
to put up graven images
do you suppose that means photos and sketches?
Anti-Christians particularly Moslem's don't like evidence or
presenting images of God.

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Even the Dead Sea Scrolls Moslems are trying to destroy
"The Dead Sea Scrolls enhance our knowledge of both Judaism and
Christianity. They represent a non-rabbinic form of Judaism and
provide a wealth of comparative material for New Testament scholars,
including many important parallels to the Jesus movement. They show
Christianity to be rooted in Judaism and have been called the
evolutionary link between the two. "
Post by abelard
Post by Bruce S
of (one version of) the Ten Commandments, since
they're OT? Or didn't you realize that? While you're at it, you'll
stop quoting from the scribblings of superstitious primitives in such
nonsense as Leviticus to support your bigotry and hatred? Good deal!
I look forward to a world where Christians restrict their incoherent
nonsense to the Beatitudes. Maybe you can all stop (yes, I realize
it's only the silliest who do this) pretending the Earth is only a few
thousand years old, or that some 600 year old guy built a boat to save
all the species of the entire planet from a flood your psychopathic
mass murderer magical invisible friend caused. Or is that too much to
ask?
--
Petzl
Tiberius Caesar who reigned for 22 years,
and his last year was AD 37. wrote:

"The extremities of Spain, the various parts of Gaul, the regions of
Britain which have never been penetrated by Roman arms, have received
the religion of Christ."
Bruce S
2017-12-11 00:51:50 UTC
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Post by Bruce S
Post by Petzl
On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 14:02:59 +1100, Government Shill #2
Post by Government Shill #2
Post by Petzl
A problem with Moslem's is they have little understanding of
their Quran (much of it old testament)
A problem with Christians is they have little understanding of
their bible (much of it old testament).
Nope Christians regard the New Testament as fulfillment of the
old, only using it for enlightenment.
So, you (and the rest of those who claim Christianity) will stop
trying to put up graven images
do you suppose that means photos and sketches?
Of course different Bibles word it differently, but mine says: "or any
likeness of anything", so yes, it would include photos and sketches.
However, in the above I was referring to the repeated attempts of
Christians to put up actual *carved* (aka "graven") images of the Ten,
though I should have included creches, "saint" carvings, crosses with or
without writhing victims, and the rest.
abelard
2017-12-11 10:17:25 UTC
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Post by abelard
Post by Bruce S
Post by Petzl
On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 14:02:59 +1100, Government Shill #2
Post by Government Shill #2
Post by Petzl
A problem with Moslem's is they have little understanding of
their Quran (much of it old testament)
A problem with Christians is they have little understanding of
their bible (much of it old testament).
Nope Christians regard the New Testament as fulfillment of the
old, only using it for enlightenment.
So, you (and the rest of those who claim Christianity) will stop
trying to put up graven images
do you suppose that means photos and sketches?
Of course different Bibles word it differently, but mine says: "or any
likeness of anything", so yes, it would include photos and sketches.
However, in the above I was referring to the repeated attempts of
Christians to put up actual *carved* (aka "graven") images of the Ten,
though I should have included creches, "saint" carvings, crosses with or
without writhing victims, and the rest.
are you an islamy?
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Bruce S
2017-12-11 15:50:43 UTC
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Post by Bruce S
Post by Petzl
On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 14:02:59 +1100, Government Shill #2
Post by Government Shill #2
Post by Petzl
A problem with Moslem's is they have little understanding of
their Quran (much of it old testament)
A problem with Christians is they have little understanding of
their bible (much of it old testament).
Nope Christians regard the New Testament as fulfillment of the
old, only using it for enlightenment.
So, you (and the rest of those who claim Christianity) will stop
trying to put up graven images
do you suppose that means photos and sketches?
Of course different Bibles word it differently, but mine says: "or any
likeness of anything", so yes, it would include photos and sketches.
However, in the above I was referring to the repeated attempts of
Christians to put up actual *carved* (aka "graven") images of the Ten,
though I should have included creches, "saint" carvings, crosses with or
without writhing victims, and the rest.
are you an islamy?
I don't know what you mean by that, but if you're talking about
religious position, I think you'll find mine obvious in my posts.
Government Shill #2
2017-12-10 22:59:17 UTC
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On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 14:02:59 +1100, Government Shill #2
Post by Government Shill #2
Post by Petzl
A problem with Moslem's is they have little understanding of their
Quran (much of it old testament)
A problem with Christians is they have little understanding of their
bible (much of it old testament).
Nope Christians regard the New Testament as fulfillment of the old,
only using it for enlightenment.
Really? Because Jesus is reported to have said:

Matthew
5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come
to destroy, but to fulfil.
5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one
tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

So it would seem you can't just write off the Old Testament.

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wouldn't be religious people. - Doris Egan
abelard
2017-12-10 23:13:41 UTC
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Post by Government Shill #2
Post by Petzl
On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 14:02:59 +1100, Government Shill #2
Post by Government Shill #2
Post by Petzl
A problem with Moslem's is they have little understanding of their
Quran (much of it old testament)
A problem with Christians is they have little understanding of their
bible (much of it old testament).
Nope Christians regard the New Testament as fulfillment of the old,
only using it for enlightenment.
Matthew
5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come
to destroy, but to fulfil.
does that mean you have to return to 'go'?
Post by Government Shill #2
5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one
tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
So it would seem you can't just write off the Old Testament.
you can write on it...as long as it's not rude words...
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www.abelard.org
Petzl
2017-12-11 00:03:53 UTC
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Post by Government Shill #2
Post by Petzl
On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 14:02:59 +1100, Government Shill #2
Post by Government Shill #2
Post by Petzl
A problem with Moslem's is they have little understanding of their
Quran (much of it old testament)
A problem with Christians is they have little understanding of their
bible (much of it old testament).
Nope Christians regard the New Testament as fulfillment of the old,
only using it for enlightenment.
Matthew
5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come
to destroy, but to fulfil.
5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one
tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
So it would seem you can't just write off the Old Testament.
The old is not written off
The Dead Sea Scrolls enhance our knowledge of both Judaism and
Christianity. They represent a non-rabbinic form of Judaism and
provide a wealth of comparative material for New Testament scholars,
including many important parallels to the Jesus movement. They show
Christianity to be rooted in Judaism and have been called the
evolutionary link between the two.
--
Petzl
Tiberius Caesar who reigned for 22 years,
and his last year was AD 37. wrote:

"The extremities of Spain, the various parts of Gaul, the regions of
Britain which have never been penetrated by Roman arms, have received
the religion of Christ."
Bruce S
2017-12-11 00:55:04 UTC
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Post by abelard
On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 09:59:17 +1100, Government Shill #2
Post by Petzl
On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 14:02:59 +1100, Government Shill #2
Post by Government Shill #2
Post by Petzl
A problem with Moslem's is they have little understanding of
their Quran (much of it old testament)
A problem with Christians is they have little understanding of
their bible (much of it old testament).
Nope Christians regard the New Testament as fulfillment of the
old, only using it for enlightenment.
Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the
prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 5:18 For verily
I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle
shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
So it would seem you can't just write off the Old Testament.
The old is not written off The Dead Sea Scrolls enhance our knowledge
of both Judaism and Christianity. They represent a non-rabbinic form
of Judaism and provide a wealth of comparative material for New
Testament scholars, including many important parallels to the Jesus
movement. They show Christianity to be rooted in Judaism and have
been called the evolutionary link between the two.
That sure seems evasive. So, Petzl, do you believe that Jesus was
correct, and not a single minor detail of the old laws would change
until the end of the world (even though he also told people to go ahead
and violate some of those laws), or do you believe you should ignore
Jesus entirely and ignore whatever OT rules you don't like? I hope the
latter, because Cafeteria Christianity is far preferable to any attempt
to actually follow the rules of that primitive cult.
abelard
2017-12-10 11:18:56 UTC
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Post by Byker
Vigorously prosecute all those involved in polygamy,
Polygamous marriages are not allowed here
of course it's 'allowed' as long as you don't ask permission
from the state
Post by Basil Jet
Post by Byker
"honor" violence
That is vigorously prosecuted already
not in europe it ain't...

but then in the states, going to 'the law' is a reflex response
Post by Basil Jet
Post by Byker
or female genital mutilation.
FGM is not ordered by Islam and is a cultural practice in certain
countries. Pakistanis have no FGM. Male genital mutilation, on the other
hand, is ordered by Islam, so why not vigorously prosecute that? Was the
list perhaps written by a Jew?
well, male genital mutilation isn't quite as violent or dangerous...
--
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de chucka
2017-12-10 19:40:46 UTC
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Post by Basil Jet
Post by Byker
Vigorously prosecute all those involved in polygamy,
Polygamous marriages are not allowed here
of course it's 'allowed' as long as you don't ask permission
from the state
Marriage is a legal term in this context
abelard
2017-12-10 19:51:56 UTC
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Post by abelard
Post by Basil Jet
Post by Byker
Vigorously prosecute all those involved in polygamy,
Polygamous marriages are not allowed here
of course it's 'allowed' as long as you don't ask permission
from the state
Marriage is a legal term in this context
what isn't?

is 'polygamous marriage' a 'legal term'?
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de chucka
2017-12-10 20:01:11 UTC
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He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5
https://tinyurl.com/yddwa8n4
Lets face it it George has a greter chance of being sexually abuse by a
Christian priest looking at he UK numbers
finally ditched mimo
2017-12-10 20:23:18 UTC
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Post by Byker
He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5
https://tinyurl.com/yddwa8n4
Lets face it it George has a greter chance of being sexually abuse by a
Christian priest looking at he UK numbers
And probably just as much of a chance of being abused by an MP.
de chucka
2017-12-10 20:28:36 UTC
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Post by de chucka
Post by Byker
He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5
https://tinyurl.com/yddwa8n4
Lets face it it George has a greter chance of being sexually abuse by a
Christian priest looking at he UK numbers
And probably just as much of a chance of being abused by an MP.
and if he went to a septic school the biggest danger would be someone
going postal and killing a few kids
Fran
2017-12-11 02:06:17 UTC
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Post by de chucka
Post by Byker
He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5
https://tinyurl.com/yddwa8n4
Lets face it it George has a greter chance of being sexually abuse by a
Christian priest looking at he UK numbers
And probably just as much of a chance of being abused by an MP.
And givne that we're talking British MPS, that MP will probably be
wearing a suspender belt and fishnet stockings....
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